Type of power steering pump

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Type of power steering pump

Postby X92 » Wed May 29, 2013 3:54 am

There are many aftermarket pumps available ford mark 7 .
A1 cardone with handling package
same without handling package
same with handling and manga filtration .... etc

So it is very confusing which is the right one ? With vin code the oem parts catalogue gives also 2 choises , with or without. I have 1989 Mark 7 LSC 5.0 .
Could you please tell me what are the differences and which would be the right pump to buy ?
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby CDW6212R » Wed May 29, 2013 10:53 am

Try to get an OEM pump, new or rebuilt etc. Many aftermarket pumps will be weaker(take more steering force).

Choose a handling package if there is a choice. Stock they all were the same pump, BB or not, same as a Mustang, same part. The aftermarket makes up applications and "packages" to be able to use their same part numbers for various different applications.

If you can't find a new/rebuilt OEM pump, I'd buy a used OEM pump from a junkyard. They last a long long time taken care of, and most Lincolns are taken care of. Do not buy a used Mustang PS pump of any age or mileage.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby X92 » Wed May 29, 2013 2:01 pm

Thank you !
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carco ... ttype,7380

Acdelco woud be ok ? actually year or two ago i bought a1 cardone but it is making noise and steering wheel is hard to turn .
Why not to buy mustang pump ? It is same
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby CDW6212R » Wed May 29, 2013 3:52 pm

Anything from a Mustang is going to have more issues than a Lincoln. Owners of Mustangs don't take care of things as well.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby X92 » Wed May 29, 2013 4:07 pm

Is ACDELCO pump ok ? Is it compareable with motorcraft ?
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby tomnh » Wed May 29, 2013 5:32 pm

I replaced both my pump and rack from autozone. Both fit well, no problems since I installed them 4 years ago.
Of course I do flush the P/S fluid every year.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby CDW6212R » Wed May 29, 2013 7:24 pm

X92 wrote:Is ACDELCO pump ok ? Is it compareable with motorcraft ?

I don't know about AC Delco, that isn't a typical Ford part maker. I know the Autozone pumps used to be weaker, I put one in an 86 Crown Vic and it was harder to turn the wheel.

See if you can find a Motorcraft pump first, the Rock Auto is a good parts source. If you can't find one quickly, then go with a local parts store choice, and be sure they will take it back(or trade it) if it doesn't work well.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby tomnh » Wed May 29, 2013 9:29 pm

Before I forget this. There are 2 different pumps, one is for normal big boat steering. The other is for the quick steering rack, our LSCs have the quick rack.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby CDW6212R » Thu May 30, 2013 12:21 am

That may be why some parts store pumps do not have the power to equal the OEM pumps we are used to. The assist is adjustable for the application, but it isn't something an owner wants to mess with.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby tomnh » Fri May 31, 2013 8:27 am

If I remember right, I bought my pump off of Mustangs Unlimited. It was marked for the quick steering rack.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby CDW6212R » Fri May 31, 2013 11:57 am

tomnh wrote:If I remember right, I bought my pump off of Mustangs Unlimited. It was marked for the quick steering rack.


Are they still a big part business? I haven't run across their ads since the 90s when I quit getting the magazines. They were a good big company back then for sure.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby tomnh » Fri May 31, 2013 1:44 pm

CDW6212R wrote:
tomnh wrote:If I remember right, I bought my pump off of Mustangs Unlimited. It was marked for the quick steering rack.


Are they still a big part business? I haven't run across their ads since the 90s when I quit getting the magazines. They were a good big company back then for sure.


When it comes to parts that we can use, Mustang Unlimited carries a lot more performance parts then Summit. You have to request the mags now, I do so once a year. Summit is a big name because of the GM parts they carry. Not so much for Fords or stangs. I use Rock Auto for stock parts and MU for performance parts.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby CDW6212R » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:38 pm

Thanks.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby GRANADOJL » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:11 pm

tomnh wrote:I replaced both my pump and rack from autozone. Both fit well, no problems since I installed them 4 years ago.
Of course I do flush the P/S fluid every year.


I rebuilt the the steering on my '90 about 5 months ago with Autozone parts when I rebuilt the engine. I was pulling into work last week when I heard a pop and smelled burned P/S fluid. Looks like a hose on the Rack blew. So in order to get her home, I bought a shorter belt and bypassed the P/S pump. I just picked up a new rack, P/S Pump and all hoses and plan on installing them later this week. I hope this set up lasts longer then 5 months like the other parts.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby 90 MarkVII BB » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:02 pm

X92 wrote:Is ACDELCO pump ok ? Is it compareable with motorcraft ?


I used the ACDelco pump to replace my original because of a shaft seal leak.

Two years later she is still doing fine, though tends to be a bit loud - then again, it is due for a fluid change, which will likely shut her up. Additionally, changing the belt also seemed to tighten things up and quiet the pump as well.

From my understanding, ACDelco parts are built to GM specs.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby tomnh » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:54 pm

90 MarkVII BB wrote:From my understanding, ACDelco parts are built to GM specs.


GM specs.... arrrrrggggggg ! :o :shock: :cry:
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby 90 MarkVII BB » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:34 pm

tomnh wrote:
90 MarkVII BB wrote:From my understanding, ACDelco parts are built to GM specs.


GM specs.... arrrrrggggggg ! :o :shock: :cry:


Go through GM quality control may be a better way to put it, not sure if that makes it sound better or worse. I have no experience with ACDelco parts outside this :oops:

It was late and I was tired when I wrote that :lol:

I mean bottom line is it has served me well. The one I ordered didnt come with cap though, so I used the one from my original pump, doesn't fit as tightly.
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby IndyDave » Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:15 pm

Had to replace my steering pump 11 months ago. Got a "MasterPro" pump from O'Rielly (p/n 20-7254). They say it's good for 90-92 BB and LSC. That would seem to indicate it doesn't take the "handling / quick steering" into account. Regardless, it had the same steering feel as the stock unit it replaced. No complaints on that front. Reasonably quiet operation. $49.99 plus tax.

A few days ago my Mark started bucking and wheezing during low-speed maneuvering into park spots. Looks like I've been O'Reilly'd. :roll:

I called O'Rielly today to see how much the "limited lifetime warranty" was going to cost me. The guy said, "Nothing after you give us your core". So, 11 months? Sure, why not. I replaced it once so I should be faster at it.

I know some guys have posted about going through a few units in pretty short order. I guess I'll keep feeding it crap steering pumps unless the host rejects the donor more frequently. :|
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby IndyDave » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:31 pm

Well, after reading all the posts about, "pump out your steering fluid and put in fresh" I decided to stop at Harbor Freight (I don't need much of an excuse) and get the fluid transfer pump and clean up my steering fluid before yanking the steering pump out. I'm glad I did! Not because fresh fluid solved the problem, but because it lead me to find that the pulley was the problem!

The metal bushing in the center of the pulley was spinning freely, relative to the pulley itself. The metal bushing was still firmly on the pump shaft but the pulley was spinning on it and therefor not turning the pump. I'm lucky the whole pulley assembly didn't disintegrate along with the belt and who knows what else. :shock:

A $9.99 pulley from O'Reilly's is on and I'm back in business. :)
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Re: Type of power steering pump

Postby Sir Tonk » Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:11 pm

tomnh wrote:
90 MarkVII BB wrote:From my understanding, ACDelco parts are built to GM specs.


GM specs.... arrrrrggggggg ! :o :shock: :cry:


ACDelco rules. I use them any time I can't get Motorcraft and they tend to use Motorcraft stuff on their rebuilt parts anyway.
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