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1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:58 pm

1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL MARK VII GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:59 pm

1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL MARK VII GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:11 pm

1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL MARK VII GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:12 pm

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:52 pm

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:53 pm

1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL MARK VII GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:43 pm

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:44 pm

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:36 am

Ignition Switch.

The reason I stress replacing our FACTORY IGNITION SWITCHes is because I lost my rare, award winning, 1985 Lincoln Continental Mark VII Gianni Versace due to a failed ignition switch.
Below is a group of pictures to show the true end result of an IGNIION SWITCH FAILURE on a 1984 - 1989 Lincoln Mark VII.

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:28 am

Removed the driver's side door trim for use elsewhere.
To remove the driver's side seat, I located the BLACK/WHITE wire going INTO the seat control switch and provide it (not the car) with 12 volts.
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I also provided a ground wire from the door to my source of the 12 volts. This allowed me to move the seat forward and expose the two rear floor bolts and the seat belt anchor bolt.
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With the three rear anchors removed, AND the seat powered, I moved the seat rearward to expose the two front anchors and removed them.
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With all anchors removed, I lifted the seat and disconnected the THREE wire harnesses from the seat.
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The driver's side front seat can now be removed.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:23 pm

I removed the forward headliner and MOST of the wiring for the AUTO DIMMING REAR VIEW MIRROR.

Eleven wires on this circuit? Wow.

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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby CDW6212R » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:54 pm

Ouch, sorry to see that John. Did it hurt anything besides that wiring around the starter relay? When was that, and is the car intact still, to save it? A new harness is possible to replace that and fix it with. I have my old 91 wiring that I'm going to use to build one for my current car, but the extra wiring from this one I could be talked out of.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby WHITEOXLSC » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:16 pm

CDW6212R wrote:Ouch, sorry to see that John. Did it hurt anything besides that wiring around the starter relay? When was that, and is the car intact still, to save it? A new harness is possible to replace that and fix it with. I have my old 91 wiring that I'm going to use to build one for my current car, but the extra wiring from this one I could be talked out of.


I was wondering the same thing...... couldn't you just replace the engine bay harness, or is the wiring inside the car destroyed too...... :roll:
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:53 pm

CDW6212R wrote:Ouch, sorry to see that John. Did it hurt anything besides that wiring around the starter relay?

Yup. Everything from the valve cover to the fender and from the brake booster to the forward shock brace (head lamp area).
CDW6212R wrote:When was that, and
Years ago like maybe 2007 or so.
CDW6212R wrote:is the car intact still, to save it?
Yes it is still in tact and no, it's not saveable for less than the cost of a donor car and the labor to completely swap out the two harnesses. 1985 had a ONE YEAR ONLY harness :)
CDW6212R wrote:A new harness is possible to replace that and fix it with. I have my old 91 wiring that I'm going to use to build one for my current car, but the extra wiring from this one I could be talked out of.

Thank you for the offer but I've already began parting this jem.
You'll see more as time goes by. I can only do so much at a time.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby CDW6212R » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:39 am

Sorry to hear that John. As nice as that car was, I'd want to rewire it, and swapping to a later wiring would not intimidate me. I can do that, and I'm sure you could too. My friend and I took apart a diesel 84 Mark VII in about 1996 or so, and then we parted out two other Mark VII's, plus my first LSC after I wrecked it. We got to know the layout of the parts well. It's a huge complicated mess of wires, but the various models have similar main component connector locations. The bodies seem to all have the same wiring holes etc, which makes swapping different wires as easy as possible.

My limited experiences with wiring projects is what allowed me to consider rewiring my 91, using SN95 wiring. I have a 2002 Mustang set of harnesses, the engine/bay/dash/body I believe. It'll be a mess of wires, but I plan to fit the wires to the car, and then alter it, splicing the outer components into it. I have to do that to get the OBDII system in place, which lets me tune the engine/trans for any modification.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:35 am

I understand Don.
Over the years, I've had a dozen Friends and mechanics look into the bay and say, "that's doable". During the second inspection, they'd say, "that's gonna be a pain in the butt." By the third look, they've completely bowed out; up to and including my favorite mechanic.

The parts will live on in at least two of my other cars.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby 2manymarks » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:05 pm

:roll: :cry: Great, John, you finally found something to make a grown man cry! :cry:
As of July2017, 11 Mark[*] VII's, 3 licensed for the road:
1989 LSC Midnight/Current Red c/c (9G) mostly stock 99k.
1989 LSC Midnight/Current Red c/c (9G) 124k, stock, needs air suspension & bodywork.
1989 Light Titanium c/c (11) Bill Blass - stock. miles unk
1989 LSC Medium Sandalwood (62) Mass air+ 111k FOR SALE $900.
1986 BB (8T) stock 125k (wife'sDD)
1987 BB (4L) stock (miles unk)
1987 Base Model White (9L) 107k (2.73rear)
1984 Turbo Diesel Base model, Platinum (1Q), 131k+ FOR SALE $1000.
Parts cars: 88 LSC, 89 BB, 90 LSC - TLZ 5spd (complete conversion w/extras 4SALE)
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:18 pm

I hadda du it, Jerry!
I jus' hadda!

I thank you sincerely for pointing this car out to me ten or fifteen years ago. If you remember, I was ready to pay 5 - 10 K for it sight unseen. It went to Carlisle twice and won countless local awards. I truly enjoyed driving it. Tim Crisden went with me to pick it up from the shipper. JoeyChrome even drove it to work once or twice. After the fire though, it took YEARS for me to realize that I was NOT going to go through with a restoration so ... the parts will on ATLEAST inside of OLDSCL5 (the 1988) and OLDSCL2 (the 1984).
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby CDW6212R » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:20 pm

I'm sure that the parts will find good homes. I grieved for my first LSC after I wrecked it, the only car I've killed. It was so nice I didn't know how good it was until I tried to find another one like it. I never did. I did use a bunch of the parts to revive a, 85 Mark VII, which had neglect and wouldn't survive with most people owning it. That's where I learned a lot about the Mark VII's, different features etc. I still have the interior of the old SE though, only the left door panel was broken, plus the lower seat. It's time to use them again.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby 2manymarks » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:48 pm

oldschool1 wrote:I hadda du it, Jerry!
I jus' hadda!

I thank you sincerely for pointing this car out to me ten or fifteen years ago. If you remember, I was ready to pay 5 - 10 K for it sight unseen. It went to Carlisle twice and won countless local awards. I truly enjoyed driving it. Tim Crisden went with me to pick it up from the shipper. JoeyChrome even drove it to work once or twice. After the fire though, it took YEARS for me to realize that I was NOT going to go through with a restoration so ... the parts will on ATLEAST inside of OLDSCL5 (the 1988) and OLDSCL2 (the 1984).


That was the one the lady in Oregon put us on, wasn't it? Sure was a find! Oh well, stuff happens. 8-)
As of July2017, 11 Mark[*] VII's, 3 licensed for the road:
1989 LSC Midnight/Current Red c/c (9G) mostly stock 99k.
1989 LSC Midnight/Current Red c/c (9G) 124k, stock, needs air suspension & bodywork.
1989 Light Titanium c/c (11) Bill Blass - stock. miles unk
1989 LSC Medium Sandalwood (62) Mass air+ 111k FOR SALE $900.
1986 BB (8T) stock 125k (wife'sDD)
1987 BB (4L) stock (miles unk)
1987 Base Model White (9L) 107k (2.73rear)
1984 Turbo Diesel Base model, Platinum (1Q), 131k+ FOR SALE $1000.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby CDW6212R » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:17 pm

Ship the hood and trunk lid to me, I'll make good use of those. I do need to hunt those to replace my hail damaged versions.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:03 pm

2manymarks wrote:
oldschool1 wrote:I hadda du it, Jerry!
I jus' hadda!

I thank you sincerely for pointing this car out to me ten or fifteen years ago. If you remember, I was ready to pay 5 - 10 K for it sight unseen. It went to Carlisle twice and won countless local awards. I truly enjoyed driving it. Tim Crisden went with me to pick it up from the shipper. JoeyChrome even drove it to work once or twice. After the fire though, it took YEARS for me to realize that I was NOT going to go through with a restoration so ... the parts will on ATLEAST inside of OLDSCL5 (the 1988) and OLDSCL2 (the 1984).


That was the one the lady in Oregon put us on, wasn't it? Sure was a find! Oh well, stuff happens. 8-)

Yes.
This is the car from Oregon.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby 90 MarkVII BB » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:42 pm

I'd like to know where you got those seat covers. I need em to protect my Blass seats lol
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:42 pm

90 MarkVII BB wrote:I'd like to know where you got those seat covers. I need em to protect my Blass seats lol

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No doubt purchased in 1985 by the original owner.
They crumbled in my hands as I removed them. They were a HIGH QUALITY textile to have lasted 20+ years.
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Re: 1MRBP98F5FY652427 1985 GIANNI VERSACE (RETIRED)

Postby oldschool1 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:49 am

The mechanical AUTO DIM REAR VIEW MIRROR is going into my 1988.

I was able to match up SEVEN of the ELEVEN wires. The four remaining wires have no (color coded) mate.

Time to break out the EVTMs.
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